bookwormzzzz 14 years ago #5. Please remember to follow the manual of style and code of conduct at all times. This message was certified by priestfromhell. knows false. Hi there! As suggested by Codraroll, I've decided to start a thread discussing teambuilding in-game. Switch FC: 1161-9206-0151 | IGN: Mr. I take him with those moves; as well as secret power for the bases, and any water type for the 3 water HMs. 13rucezzz 10 years ago #4. ago. Both of those moves were made vital to progress back in the original games, so I think they will return and two different moves will take the place of the. All I can think of is bibarel for gen. Tentacool and Tropius learn all of the. Tyazinzard 14 years ago #19. I will always love my Level 18 Bibarel that KO'd Cynthia's Garchomp. u can find tropius in the great marsh wildley and u should use bibarel ( it can learn every hms except for fly and defog). Most of those TMs are among the best in the game, including Ice Beam. Dragonite. u can transfer a bibarel from platinum to blaclk/white as it is the best hm slave whcih can learn all movesSwampert (Rock Climb, Strength, Surf and Whirlpool) and Skarmory (Rock Smash, Fly, Cut and Flash) are my HM slaves. 12. Gunbladelad 12 years ago #4. having HM slaves take up the limited space on your team. ManicOwl • 11 yr. 1st gen, ehhh, forgot, i think oddish/bellsprout for cut/flash and ingame mons for surf/strength. Dk bout other gens but Gen I you can do Slowpoke/bro and Farfetch’d. Trait - Blaze. Nidoking/Nidoqueen (Cut, Surf, Strength, & Rock Smash) Meowth (Cut & Flash) Paras (Cut & Flash) Krabby (Cut, Surf, Strength, & Rock Smash) Marill (Strength/Waterfall/Dive [Rock Smash/Surf]) Zigzagoon (Cut/Surf/Rock Smash) Pick Up is a decent ability to take along! For Fire Red I didn't use dedicated HM slaves, too lazy to look up what pokémon could fill the role. Fly is completely optional, as usual, but you won’t have access to the soaring feature until after the 8th gym. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. I use Rayquaza for Fly so that HM isn't needed in any others. Tropius (Fly, Strength, Rock Smash) (Defog for Sinnoh) 2. Switch FC: 1161-9206-0151 | IGN: Mr. Only HM he can't learn is fly (for obvious reasons). I started to play it today, and I'm gonna plan wich pokémon are going to be in my team. "Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent. It’s kind of funny that the Box Legendaries are just HM Slaves and further more they are just past and future versions of a bicycle. #13. . The best team: - Jirachi, can get before second gym doing a sidequest. It learns: Cut, Rock Smash, Strength, Surf (yes). ago. Most HMs aren't good in battle, anyway (except Surf). These Legendaries are just HM slaves. Rock Smash. Bibarel - Surf, Waterfall, Rock Climb, Cut. About halfway through the game you get an item that uses Rock Smash. p. Beartic gets Dive, Surf, Cut, and Strength. The only Mon that makes for a better HM slave is Mew, but it's a mythical with limited distribution, so unless you use cheats, you can't get one in any of the games that had HMs. Cut. See quote for information about quotes. It could learn all the necessary ones but cut, which is pretty darn good. Fun fact: you can have all hm's on just 2 pokemon in gen 3. . Below are all the Pokémon from Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald with the HMs they can learn. 5th gen wasnt fully unnecessary to carry hm. Dont quote me on that tho. Can you still access yellow forest to get the flying pikachu? 3 posts, 11/6 8:29AM. These each have very different distributions of HM moves, so this list is split into two sections: first are HM slave recommendations for RBY, then a section for. For starters, Gyarados and Sharpedo have the same HM learned with 5, while Tentacruel only has 4, not having access to Rock Smash and. Fly is easy enough to allocate to a non-slave Pokémon so that leaves Cut, Strength, Surf, and Waterfall. Nidoran (both male and female) are easy enough to get to. Gyarados as an HM slave on this game is disgraceful. It’s also easier to catch one, too. We will live to see another day. PO_hokoCHO_TO 13 years ago #3. 489 posts, 11/11 2:33AM. Can Raticate learn surf? Furret is the better HM Slave of the two because it can learn three HM moves over Raticate’s two. . Zeimma • 9 yr. Flash and Defog are for the weak. Be the very best in Sinnoh!. ago. Official Mawile of the Pokemon Boards. Technologic Clan. Sharpedo is the fastest surfer though. if you. Flamethrower (STAB) Fly (STAB + HM) Dragon Claw (Coverage) Steel Wing (Coverage) Charizard is a great Pokémon in Special Attack and Speed and arguably the best Fire-Type option in the game. Swmapert can also be an HM slave. ago. (FCs are in the quote) XzeraX 15 years ago #12. HM Locations. And since Surf and Waterfall are actually good moves imo I use them in battle. TM13 (Ice Beam) Ice Beam is one of the few TMs that can be bought in the Celadon Game Corner. Reply. Give me a min and I'll find an article (not a leak). Additional comment actions. So you no longer need to dedicate a move slot to traverse through water, or to clear those pesky obstacles that block your way. Quagsire. Linoone evolves from Zigzagoon at level 20. It takes too long to level up and in Gen 2 Dratini is only obtained late and at a very low level compared to the rest of your team. tenorsaxuf 13 years ago #10. selected Sep 28, 2014 by Legend Of Lotad. What is the best HM slave early in the game of Pokemon crystal? What is an 'HM Slave'? powerful hm slave pokemon. Paulas Choice–SKIN PERFECTING 2% BHA Liquid Salicylic Acid Exfoliant–Facial Exfoliant for Blackheads, Enlarged Pores, Wrinkles & Fine Lines, 4 oz BottleIf you don't want to use your starter for this/picked another, Basculin can also learn all of those sans Strength. The Black 2. Sentret is the worst in every way. It is kind of an HM slave, but one that can hold its own in battle. Flash is not an HM in HG/SS, I know, but it's still needed and my Feraligatr already has Waterfall as part of it's DD moveset, so it all works great. Overall, Tropius is a better Flying HM slave, with access to 5 HMs, Flash, and Sweet Scent; however, Drifblim is the best Flying HM slave you can get early on in-game in Sinnoh. roflcopter9001 • 9 yr. Instead of cut, you get a pair of shears; instead of surf, you get a foldable canoe; instead of fly, you get access to teleporters in PokeCenters, etc. 56. Strength is used by Pokémon to move large boulders to access new areas, find items, or solve puzzles to progress to interesting places. Whats your go to? comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment. ago. Gunbladelad 12 years ago #4. Mystic_Esper 14 years ago #20. ago. Those would be Skarmory and Tropius at level 1. "Happy New Year. Note: if you are looking for an HM Slave, we also have dedicated HM pages for each game which you may find quicker to use. between these pokes, find a good combo that lets you minimize your slaves to 2. •Whirlpool-Pokemon Gold, Silver and Crystal, and HG SS in order to get to. An HM slave, then, is a term for a Pokemon that is not used for battle but. Bibarel is your best HM and TM slave without Flash (Cut, Dig, Surf, Rock Climb, Covet/Thief, Strength, Waterfall, Rock Smash, Dive) I use Kingler if cut needed or Quagsire if Flash is needed. This, normally, includes two pokemon that I use as slaves, because during the whole adventure, I like that they get all the HMs. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a Pokémon knowing only HM. It solves rock smash, dive, waterfall and surf/strenght. Defog was replaced by Whirlpool in the Generation 2 remakes HeartGold & SoulSilver. Thanks. Haxorus. A term used within parts of the fandom to refer to a Pokémon in a Trainer's party that is used for navigational support through the use of field moves—generally those taught by Hidden Machines. Well, the 4 main HMs you need to get through the game are. You needn't worry about Rock Smash or Rock Climb or what have you, as they've lost their HM status for this game. Gotta give thanks to Tropius. How longe are you a slave? A slave was a slave for life. HM slave is a term used within parts of the fandom to refer to a Pokémon in a Trainer's party that is not used for battling, but to provide navigational support through the use of field moves—generally those taught by Hidden Machine. S. Right now I've got Strength and Surf on a Herdier and I have a pidove with fly. I beat all 16 Gym Leaders and need to train my main Pokemon to beat Red (all upper 50s at the moment). May 1, 2008. 4 meters (1’04”) tall and its weight is 6. PSN - Darigandevil (Vita and Ps3) Black 2 - 2753-3440-3329. 2. zarcane70 • 26 min. Zigzagoon can learn Surf. That way you can still limit when the player can get to certain areas without restricting their party selection. An HM, or Hidden Machine, is similar to a TM in Pokemon. 2. I can't be arsed checking EVERY single one on Bulba. " Mousse9 8 years ago #4. You can only get him post game so it's kinda of a waste. KillerFugu • 4 yr. Cut: Parfum Palace (in the maze out back, near the bottom)3 Answers. NNID: Surgemaster140 | 3DS FC: 0044 - 3133 - 9479. Boards. 5 kilograms (14. Slowbro - Surf, Psychic, Flash, Teleport. Magmar, while outclassed as an HM Slave, can use its decent speed, offensive stats and movepool to reliably and quickly sweep the Elite 4, which is the fastest way of generating money in all Gen 3 games. My personal favorite combo is Charizard + Slowpoke/Slowbro because you get all the HMs, and can also include 2 Digs, Teleport, and Pay Day if wanted. Cut. This means the perfect HM partner to Sharpedo is Mew, Arceus, Zekrom, Tropius or Skarmory, assuming you want Flash. PersonalityDefects. The first ds game I remember is diamond so I remember it fondly (played other older ones in a different method). Victory Road needs 5 HMs to get to route 224 (Waterfall, Surf and Rock Climb to get to the section; and Defog [the game won't let you progress without it] and Rock Smash once inside). I know this is from 5 years ago but what the hell why do you use your STARTER as an HM slave. yzman 11 years ago #8. Gyarados as an HM slave on this game is disgraceful. problem. ~Whirlpool (in 1 spot. Jul 18, 2008 #16 Bibarel : cut/strength/rock smash/rock climb Linoone is good too, but my linoone is for stealing items. Thank you! nincada • 11 yr. eminentAdmiral • 2 yr. k. so you wouldn't need an hm slave. I'm preparing to head to indigo plateau, and I was just wondering what pokemon everyone used as their HM Slaves. It makes a great HM slave with STAB Surf and Fly. And it still hits hard as Waterfall, Surf & Dive are STAB. EJ902 14 years ago #5. Strength can get replaced before you even find the HM. Secretpower will outdamage Acid against anything that isn't a Grass type, as long as it's not a Grass/Poison type. Both can learn Cut and Strength, however Furret can learn Surf in addition to this. For a cave HM slave, use Raichu. I think the best HM mules are Psyduck and either Braviary or Mandibuzz. Surf, Strength, Cut, and Rock Smash. Link to comment. Yes, award something analogous to HMs to help the game flow better (so that Pidgey you caught in the first hour can still eventually fly without being able to fly from when you first get it), just don't make it a move that you can use in battle or something that takes up a move slot. Best hm slave. Garchomp was a new, albeit forgetful addition to Generation IV. rampardose. Tropius HM slave that can learn 5 of the 7 including fly. Answers. The two cover every HM. source source Linoone is good. I used Smeargle as my HM slave. This nickname is tied to a Pokemon mechanic known as the Hidden Machine, or. I've heard that Sentret is a good HM slave. - Tropius for Cut, Fly, Strength, and Flash - Marill for Surf, Rock Smash, Waterfall, and Dive Magcargo ((HM Support Ability: Flame Body EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 SpD Careful Nature - Rock Smash - Strength - Will-O-Wisp - Stockpile HM SLAVE Pelipper Ability: Keen Eye - Fly - Surf J Smeargle (can learn everything) Dragonite (Fly Waterfall Streght etc etc) Golduck (Flash, Surf etc etc) Zigzagoon Level: 100 I was wondering who the two best non-legendary HM slaves are in Fire Red that can be obtained without much difficulty. fire red hm slave hm slave fire red best hm slave pokemon fire red fire red escravo de hm fire red curiosidades pokemon fire red curiosidades pokemon fire re. Whos the best HM slave that can learn cut, fly, flash, whirlpool, waterfall? Is there any that can learn 4 of those 5? The only "must" i have is it has to learn Fly. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. " - The citizens of Palmacosta. Then Tentacruel for Cut, Surf, Dive, and Waterfall. Type: Normal/Water. Unfortunately, Rufflet is a White 2 exclusive Pokemon. Where to find the HMs in Black 2/White 2. 5 3. But the introduction of Fairy-types, and the change in Steel-type’s matchup, and Glacia dropping Sealeo in ORAS, all kind of hindered Fighting-type’s coverage. Fly is easy enough to allocate to a non-slave Pokémon so that leaves Cut, Strength, Surf, and Waterfall. I don't like having an HM slave. brStalker 12 years ago #4. - Salamence, can get before second gym as Bagon in Forlorn Cape. It will take a while to get either of these, and its a massize. CruisiN. Answers. #11. ago. This is a joke look at TC. Cut: Virbank City (from Roxie) Fly: Route 5 (from Bianca) Surf: Route 6 (from Cheren) Strength: Castelia Sewers (from Hugh) Waterfall: Victory Road (from N) Dive: Undella Town (from Hugh after defeating Elite Four) I think the best HM mules are Psyduck and either Braviary or Mandibuzz. I wound up just giving Strength to my Darmanitan, and don't bother carrying a Cutter with me. Hope that helps. s. Mine: MY BROTHER! FELLOW LATIOS HM SLAVES IN OMEGA RUBY. Hey Trachy. You can say "ass" on GameFAQs. Flamethrower because of PP, and Amnesia since this is just in-game, where Thunder Wave isn't as useful (but can still be chosen). It can learn Cut, Strength, Rock Smash, and Surf. Save your valediction, Steiner. B. The best HM slave combo is: 1. Which is why I end up having two of them. Cut+Flash+Strength: Bulbasaur, Mew. Linoone. This is a good bit of coverage, and the swap of Waterfall for Strength actually comes in handy throughout a lot of the game. Quagsire (Flash, Headbutt, Whirlpool, Dig) 3. Slakoth is an amazing hm slave, its actually quite incredible how many HMs and TMs it can learn. Top Voted Answer. Cut, Strength, Rock Smash, Fly. Linoone and Pelipper , best hm slave for this game, smeargle or. Not to mention it doesn't really make sense that I had to use a machine to teach my water type Pokemon how. Best HM slaves of all times Boards Pokemon Scarlet Best HM slaves of all times Topic Archived Page 1 of 3 Next Last Product Deals See All Amazon $49. See quote for information about quotes. You only need one Pokemon in your party that can use that particular move. 1. 1 Crawdaunt. hm-slave. You just need to spread Fly and Cut among the rest of your party. Logistically: Kadabra But an HM write off will need to be good with water, so balance-wise marshtomp might be the one that takes the bench for now. B/W really removed the need for HM slaves. credit to a liikala post. Everywhere else, Strength and Surf simply makes traveling easier. . Sturdge666 • Time to sweep some bitches • 11 yr. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a Pokémon knowing only HM moves, to save all four spots for good moves on other Pokémon. Ironchar • 4 yr. FE:Fates - MyCastle: Birthright ~ Rare Skills. Do you even use a HM Slave? For Platinum I use Bidoof for Cut, Strength, Rock Smash and Rock Climb and teach Starly Fly and Defog. R - Official Slowpoketail Vendor. The other Gyarados I use it as an elemental slave - attacks are an. jonosaurus • 9 yr. ~ SmashBurb said this somewhere. I'll always swap it in for my strongest Pokemon whenever I need it and it came clutch for me in Victory Road. Reply. ago. ago. HMs can be used an unlimited number of times and cannot be disposed of. There are 5 HMs in XY: Cut, Strength, Surf, Fly, and Waterfall. Most HMs aren't good in battle, anyway (except Surf). I have a Bunnelby who does Surf, Strength, Rock Smash, and Cut. Therefore, if you decide that having HM Slaves is perfectly legal, then that is just another rule you have imposed. : r/pokemon. BIBARELL IS HM GOD!!! but it can't learn flash, as OP specified. I know Nintendo tends to make Pokemon slow if they want to make them stronger in other aspects, but they could just give this thing uneven stats. This giant jellyfish is known throughout the franchise as one of the most annoying creatures as it shows up in almost every game. Furret is excellent eary on, it can learn Cut, Rock Smash, Strength, Surf and Whirlpool. Below are all the Pokémon from Gold, Silver & Crystal with the HMs they can learn. Best Johto HM Slaves in Pokémon G/S/C (And HeartGold/SoulSilver) 1. Fa1l3r • 4 yr. HM Locations. 3DS Friend Code: 1805-3322-4950. 1. garydose (watefall gives it one of the very few advantages that it can wreck with a HM) dragonite (1 of the 2 pokemon that learn every HM) arceus (a third pokemon that learns all HM's In the 4th gen ) hydrigon. cos it can learn all moves except dive. I remember Zigzagoon was in RS but I'm not sure about this one. Dive Interactive checklist of the Hidden Machines (HMs) found in Pokémon Black & White, their locations and which Pokémon can learn them. See moreBest HM slave (s) for each gen? Discussion We all know the scorn of the moves your Pokemon must know to advance in the region, infamously bad ones like Cut and Rock smash and the better of the. But most of the time, you won't need HMs. I also like keeping a staryu/starmie. My most notable examples are probably and Impoleon and the HGSS red gyarados. _stickfigure_ 13 years ago #5. Hidden Machines, abbreviated as HMs and also known as Secret Machines, are items shaped like VCDs or DVDs. Garchomp_is_lam 15 years ago #2. ago. But you shouldn't need to. Found the Perfect HM slave. 6 HMs are guaranteed, but whether Flash and Rock Smash will return as HMs is a bit uncertain. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a Pokémon knowing only HM moves, to save all four spots for good moves on other Pokémon. Solid_Snake420. I think Furret and Bibarel can learn these moves as well. If you can get online I'd give you a Skarmory and you could just catch the Bibarel yourself. ago. Nice idea! Tropius HM slave that can learn 5 of the 7 including fly. jonosaurus • 9 yr. Cut, Strength, Rock Smash, Surf. 10. mad. in Pokemon emerald nincada is a good hm slave but in Pokemon pearl flash is not an hm. ive got two smeargles trained up: one as an hm slave, and the other is the one i use to catch pokes. I know HMs aren't so important in this Gen but I wonder what you guys use. Furret knows every HM is except Fly. Additionally, Whirlpool is a waste of a move slot on Dragonite when it could have a better non-HM move. Ultimate HM slave needed does anyone know what 2 pokemon are able to fuse to create the ultimate hm slave and with ultimate i mean can learn the most hm moves comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a CommentTeam Preview: Charizard, Primeape, Raichu, Dugtrio, Snorlax, Lapras. Most of Corsola's wide learnset via TMs is ineffective due to Corsola's lacking offensive stats. Also it gets stab strength, so you can use that in place of headbutt lol. Cut: Ilex Forest (catch runaway Farfetch'd) Fly: Cianwood City (Gym - from Chuck's wife after defeating Chuck)Mew is the obvious choice. Bibarel can learn all HM's except Fly and Defog. To carry 8 HM moves at once, the best HM slaves are Tropius and Swampert. Can Marill be B tier for being such a great HM. Gyarados is. However, Tropius is probably the best HM slave because it learns Cut, Fly, Strength, Rock Smash, and Flash (all the non-water HMs). Early on in the postgame (or possibly on Route 10, IDK) you'll get a Super Rod from someone, and if you fish in a "rippling spot" (the water equivalent of a shaking grass patch) then you stand. Like. The main reasons being because most HM moves are not particularly great, and you can't delete an HM without a move deleter. HM means you either have have to waste a move slot on each of your pokémon or have a HM slave, wasting a team member slot. This list covers the gen I games (Red, Blue & Yellow), as well as their gen III remakes, Pokémon FireRed and Leaf Green. Bibarrel. The only Hoenn Pokemon who might make a better HM mule than Ludicolo is Crawdaunt. • 2 yr. They're easy to find, and can learn Surf, Cut, and Strength (they're even better in gen 2, because Rock Smash is an HM move for Gold/Silver/Crystal). 3. " The use of wild Pokémon for HMs in the remakes is a brilliant solution as it maintains the feel of the classic adventures while fixing one of the game's biggest issues. Well Psyduck is an awesome HM Slave - it learns Surf, Strength, Flash, Whirlpool and Waterfall. We need some HM slave appreciation. I mean Fly is a good move so it's not that bad to have it on a Pokémon. Vancityriot • 13 yr. However, it looks like you've got HM Cut and HM Flash tooken care of with Meowth. Farfetch'd. Black and White Tips and Tricks Useful Pokémon - HM Slaves - Catching Useful Items In-Game Trades Seasons Helpful NPC's - Happiness Checker: Shippou City is the location of the happiness checker. The abilities of Skarmory are Keen Eye and Sturdy EV yield. Tepig 28 Snivy 27 Oshawott 41 This poll is closed to new votes Please. This Pokemon can learn every known HM. History. ive got two smeargles trained up: one as an hm slave, and the other is the one i use to catch pokes. Best HM slave is definitely Nidoran (and evolutions). Imagine like 125 Atk/Def and 30 spatk and spdef or something with 90 speed. that seems to be the kicker for the best ones. Braviery was a great HM slave in White 2, being able to do fly and the land based ones but couldn't do any of. Dragonite. It learns Cut and Strength as well, putting it comfortably in the “3 HM” category that seems to dominate in Gen 6. So if you have a Charizard, you can use fly even if you don't teach it that move. ago. Then you just need any water type that gets Surf/Waterfall/Dive and maybe Flash/Secret Power for good. Posted November 14, 2017. Trying to find a good hm slave for Kanto. 1. The coolest looking HM Slaves for sure though. Linoone is the best HM slave of all time (better than Bibarel) because it learns all of the stuff you'd want plus it has Pick Up. Hiyakkie on the. What Pokemon is capable of learning all of HMS Fire Red? Best Pokémon FireRed & LeafGreen HM Slaves. Technically the best HM slave is Mew. Psyduck's another good one, he can. View source. Smeargle. 6. Fenor • 13 yr. Tarvos for stuff. Reply reply. Dragonite isn't worth being an HM slave. I need 2 HM slaves for soul silver. Who is the best HM slave in DP? kajillion 15 years ago #1. Trying to find a good hm slave for Kanto. Kadabra for sure. 10 hm slave soulsilver Review: 1. Fly is 90 /100. paipr 10 years ago #8. Check the Bulbagarden home page for up-to-date Pokémon news and discuss it on the forums or in the Bulbagarden Discord server. As the other guy said, though, aside from one use of Cut near the start of the game, required HM use is postgame-only, so don't worry about it too much. "Until the end. asked Nov 13, 2014 by VaporeonBlue.